In a recent interview, Giuseppe Conte asserted that the original vision of the Movimento 5 Stelle (M5S), founded by Beppe Grillo, is no longer viable. He responded to Grillo’s criticisms by emphasizing the party’s reformation by its members, separating their future from Grillo’s influence. Conte stated that the party’s symbol belongs to its community and not to Grillo, highlighting ongoing tensions within the leadership and hinting at potential future moves by Grillo, including the possibility of creating an alternative party.